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Author Topic: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit  (Read 11694 times)

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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #160 on: December 19, 2016, 09:31:57 AM »

I knew they were imgur pics.

Here is a screen shot of what imgur looks like when you pull up a pic. Notice the lower right corner, where it has different sizes. The large thumbnail and huge thumbnail work best. If you click on one of those first, before you copy the link, the picture will be smaller.







This is a "large thumbnail" of the pic:






This is a "huge thumbnail" of the same pic:





I hope this helps.


I used to use Photobucket, but they have become an ad whore and pop up queen. Plus they are now limiting the amount of free pics. Imgur is harder to use, but they don't screw with you.

Also, if you are going to use the the huge thumbnail, please limit the amount of pics to @three per post. Its hard to get all the way down to the slider bar with a lot of pics per post. :high5: vvvv
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #161 on: December 19, 2016, 09:50:34 AM »

Tapatalk automatically reduces the size of the pics. PC software does not.

Sent from my SM-J320V using Tapatalk

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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #162 on: December 21, 2016, 07:13:10 PM »

Thanks for Barney styling it for me Ben. I should be able to do it now... you would hope.

I knew they were imgur pics.

Here is a screen shot of what imgur looks like when you pull up a pic. Notice the lower right corner, where it has different sizes. The large thumbnail and huge thumbnail work best. If you click on one of those first, before you copy the link, the picture will be smaller.







This is a "large thumbnail" of the pic:






This is a "huge thumbnail" of the same pic:





I hope this helps.


I used to use Photobucket, but they have become an ad whore and pop up queen. Plus they are now limiting the amount of free pics. Imgur is harder to use, but they don't screw with you.

Also, if you are going to use the the huge thumbnail, please limit the amount of pics to @three per post. Its hard to get all the way down to the slider bar with a lot of pics per post. :high5: vvvv
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #163 on: December 21, 2016, 10:39:30 PM »

You and a few other guys on here. :cheers:
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #164 on: December 26, 2016, 04:36:17 AM »

Been messing around with the 4 link calculator. Not anywhere near my TJ so kind of educated guess the numbers I didn't know and couldn't measure without my TJ off other people's TJ 4 link calculator posts. I know the vertical separation should be at 6" I think 5" should do the trick with just 35s and a 4.0L? I am pretty stoked about finally getting a solid 90% anti-squat and 0-degree axis roll. (Read up you want 80-100% anti-squat and 0 axis roll for the best results for our suspension applications)This will be my DD and weekend warrior crawler. Here are my calculations feel free to tell me I screwed the pooch.


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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #165 on: December 26, 2016, 08:58:55 AM »

A few items for thought, your front axle with tires and 1/2 your suspension probably weighs more than 300lbs, rears probably more also.  You can run less antiquat and still hook up just fine. If you stay around 5 inch separation at the frame and 10 inches at the axle you will be in the hunt. Mark
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #166 on: December 26, 2016, 12:08:02 PM »

A few items for thought, your front axle with tires and 1/2 your suspension probably weighs more than 300lbs, rears probably more also.  You can run less antiquat and still hook up just fine. If you stay around 5 inch separation at the frame and 10 inches at the axle you will be in the hunt. Mark

The weight can be adjusted for I changed it to 650lbs rear and 550lbs front, I just increased the upper link separation from the axle and frame mount by an 1" giving me still 0 roll axis and 97% anti-squat. I will also install adjustable upper link mounts until I get exactly where I want it. When does the 25% rule come into play? How do you have 10" of separation at the axle? I am 4 link illiterate just trying to learn.
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #167 on: December 27, 2016, 05:40:26 PM »

Front always weighs more than the rear, steering axles weigh more than non.  75% rule is based on the uppers being 75% linear of the lowers. Some adhere to it , some don't. Shorter upper makes more antiquated when the suspension is compressed, it also doesn't do a very good job of pointing the pinion to the output.  Longer upper points the pinion to the output better , but takes away some antisquat  when compressed. Pretty easy to get 10 inches at the axle.
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #168 on: December 27, 2016, 05:42:06 PM »

This has some easy to read information.    http://www.4wheelunderground.com/
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #169 on: December 30, 2016, 10:44:25 AM »

I just went through the whole 4/3 link ordeal. First off, I owe NorCalChris multiple mountain Dews and a ride in the Jeep when its done for all the texts and phone calls he answered while I was setting my suspension up. Second, don't listen to everything you read on the internet. I started reading WAY too much and thought my 3 link had to be perfect. Well, thats incredibly hard to do while working around exhaust and a driveshaft.

Your best bet is to get a good kit that comes with all the pieces. I pieced my 4 link together with artec and ruffstuff. It worked, but i had to make a few minor modifications. For the 3 link, I highly recommend starting with an all inclusive kit. Setting up the 3 link was the hardest for me, especially with the axle swap/stretch, and new tube frame.  Be weary of ruffstuffs kits. They make good stuff, but they are UNIVERSAL parts, and don't fit as nice as a kit designed for a TJ.

Here are my numbers. I moved my 3 link upper 6 times. Lots of back and forth.

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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #170 on: December 30, 2016, 06:25:22 PM »

First off, I owe NorCalChris multiple mountain Dews...

I think he's moved on to Gatorade now. At least until the kidney stones start. :biggrin:

By the way, your pics don't work.
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #171 on: January 15, 2017, 10:15:58 AM »

Changed the location of the Y link TRE and the regular TRE to make steering an inverted T. aired all the tires up to 30 psi and aligned the steering but I am still getting a pretty nice death wobble from 33-50mph. Any ideas on what could be causing this?
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #172 on: January 16, 2017, 09:15:12 AM »

Trackbar is a good place to start. From the front passenger wheel, grab the top of it and move it in and out while looking at the trackbar mount on the opposite side. If it moves then it needs to be addressed. Also do the same with the other side.
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #173 on: May 03, 2017, 03:54:47 PM »

The semester got away from me been focused on that. Replaced the upper controls arms the stock ones finally gave up the ghost helped with the wobble a lot. Checked the track bar and there is no wobble on either side. Called the guys who built mine they recommend a steering stabilizer and putting "the cure" at the passenger knuckle so I am gonna try that put hopefully will fix the last of the wobble. Thinking when these TRE go and if I have money drilling out the holes and doing heims cross over steering with the tie rod UTK still.

Plans/Ideas for summer build before MOAB

-Build a swing out tire carrier that bolts in where my stock tailgates hinges used to be (doing that when back home for 10 days)
-Radius Arms (Brand new front upper adjustable arms built by Core 4x4) (just gonna fab the lower out of square tube, poly bushing at axle side and johnny joints at frame side)(May buy new axle side lower link tabs)
-12" doestech shocks and ruff stuff "Ass Vault" limit straps
-1" body lift (bought used for $20 through the jeep club down here)
-1" MML lift (still looking for a used one)
-have my buddy build me custom cross member sub frame (Attach front lower link to that and notch skid)
-Build separate belly skid out 1/4 steel and removable some engine skid
-Roll cage (any recommendations? If enough money after Tummy tuck,skids,radius arms)
-Cut front stock fenders to flat move side marker on plastic fender to the grille (FREE)
-Treat all surface rust

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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #174 on: May 03, 2017, 04:09:16 PM »

Control arm swap and broken diff bolt




Sub frame and skid haven't gotten very far on it just the basic ideas/sketches


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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #175 on: May 03, 2017, 04:15:09 PM »

The spare tire idea I am copying


My Version and the driver side will have one of those swing out latches from ruff stuff. The latch will be welded to the 2" square tube and the side the u bolt from the latch goes into will be bolted into the body. Will the body be able to hold a 35" spare? If not when I body lift it I will tie the backing plates into the frame.
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #176 on: May 03, 2017, 04:18:12 PM »

Forgot but welded some new steel onto my buddies destroyed CJ he is rebuilding with a HF special welder. The volt choices on this flux core machine was high or low and at low it didn't even arc so please take that in mind before judging my shit welds. Obviously also hasn't been hit with the grinder.

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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #177 on: May 03, 2017, 04:51:01 PM »

It looks like you've been a busy boy.

 You definitely need corner guards for that tire carrier.
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #178 on: May 03, 2017, 10:39:14 PM »

It looks like you've been a busy boy.

 You definitely need corner guards for that tire carrier.

Dang that sucks probably still going to build it, just give me something to do at home and have it done. Makes my life a lot easier though I can just weld tabs onto the corner armor instead of building brackets to fit the stock holes.
Curious then what should I do to reinforce it in case of a rear impact?(i.e. me backing into something solid going too fast)
Time to add full corner armor to the ever growing list. Any recommendations?

Random thought how hard/worth my time would it be to build my own full corner armor? I am sure a machine shop out here can bend a piece of 1/4" steel for me. I can buy the metal flare and melt it on. Drilling counter sink holes seems like something a hand drill cant do? Lights/license seem like an easy solution as well.

Yeah I have been kind of all over the place this year so far but enjoying the welding.
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Re: 98 TJ student build up aka tight budget money pit
« Reply #179 on: May 03, 2017, 11:14:39 PM »

I think you can get them for a little over $100. Probably cheaper than having someone fab them for you. Unless Larry, his brother Darryl and his other brother Darryl live near you.
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