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Author Topic: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting  (Read 16265 times)

Screaming Bear

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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2015, 09:48:51 AM »

I went ahead and reserved my club trailer so I can tow the jeep. I need to get a trailer brake controller now.
What will the towed weight and combined weight be? I think we all will be fairly matched power/weight, slowest going first to set the pace. Do you guys have cruise control? I need to get cracking and change the ATF over to synthetic on my RV.

Oops, Tim beat me to it.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2015, 09:55:37 AM by Screaming Bear »
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2015, 03:58:46 PM »

If you lean back toward flat towing, I have two extra tow bars..... One is a standard pivoting bar like this... http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200514171_200514171?cm_mmc=Bing-{adtype}-_-Trailers%20+%20Towing-_-Towing%20Accessories-_-22565

You would just need the bumper mounts.

The other is not adjustable and is made to fit my recovery points.  That one probably wouldn't work as well for you.

Either way wiring, chains, etc would be needed.

My concern for you is adding an additional 2,500 #'s of trailer weight if you were already worried about towing that distance.
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2015, 04:23:35 PM »

I did some research and the combined limit for the truck is about 11000 lbs. the payload of the truck is 2200 lbs. gvwr is 62-6700.  Truck weight is probably close to 4000 lbs so that leaves about 7k for the trailer and jeep.
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2015, 04:26:20 PM »

So I will be close but I will get this tested before the trip and if it's not going to work, I will go for the flat tow. I wanted to avoid the flat tow in case the jeep isn't roadworthy on the way back.
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2015, 10:44:12 PM »

So I will be close but I will get this tested before the trip and if it's not going to work, I will go for the flat tow. I wanted to avoid the flat tow in case the jeep isn't roadworthy on the way back.
Yeah, try it first. Get the tongue weight right or handling will be scary.
Tim, what do your RV and Jeep weigh? Mine is over 14K, Jeep??
« Last Edit: January 13, 2015, 10:47:58 PM by Screaming Bear »
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2015, 08:59:14 AM »

No idea, off hand.  I know my 3 ton floor jack wouldn't raise the rear end up when I was doing brakes.  The door sticker says 10.2K!

I'd guess the jeep to be in the 3,800 to 4K range.  According to this an '89 is 3,400 ..... http://whatiscurbweight.com/vehicle-weight/jeep_curb_weight.htm

Don't know why they don't list a '90 Wrangler.  Anyhow, I'd figure if bone stock is 3,400 then add on tire carriers, bumpers, bigger tires, armor, etc....... Maybe 3,800 to 4,000.
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2015, 11:43:11 AM »

I would recommend getting your rig weighed on a scale, you would be surprised how quickly the extra gear, armor, spare, bumpers, etc etc add up
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2015, 09:03:36 PM »

I am going Saturday to Dixon to get it weighed.
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2015, 09:56:07 AM »

Sac county dump on keifer has a public scale, maybe a little closer to you?
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2015, 08:56:50 PM »

Supposedly there is a place called the 49er at 80 and 5. That's closer than the dump.
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2015, 09:15:55 PM »

Supposedly there is a place called the 49er at 80 and 5. That's closer than the dump.

I don't know if it's called the 49er, but there is a truck stop off 80 at the El Camino off ramp that has a scale, but they likely would make you pay to weigh.  That's just a bit west of 5, may be the same place you heard of, it's on the north side of the freeway.
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2015, 06:29:13 AM »

Supposedly there is a place called the 49er at 80 and 5. That's closer than the dump.

I don't know if it's called the 49er, but there is a truck stop off 80 at the El Camino off ramp that has a scale...

Yeah, it's called the 49er travel plaza.
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2015, 07:48:24 AM »

Eat some grub at the silver skillet while your there, real good truck stop food!
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1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2015, 11:28:18 AM »

4300 lbs with wheeling equipment but no camping equipment. They charged $10.50 for a printout. They also do weighing for dmv purposes if you need that.

I checked my build codes on my truck and with the 3.42:1 axle ratio, I can tow 6500 lbs with a combined vehicle weight rating of 11000 lbs.

If I go up to 3.73:1 I can tow an extra 1000 lbs. I think that if I can find a trailer under 2000 lbs I will be okay.
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Screaming Bear

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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2015, 04:53:16 PM »

I know I'm late to the party, but the gravel and stone places usually have scales. I weighed my RV a half mile from my house and it was free for asking. I'm well below the weight rating but the high passes sure slow me down.
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1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2015, 09:37:59 AM »

Does anyone have recommendations on trailer brake controllers? Need something that will control 2 axles and have some adjustability.

I'm looking at www.etrailer.com so if you could post up some links that would be cool.
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2015, 11:29:01 AM »

Does anyone have recommendations on trailer brake controllers? Need something that will control 2 axles and have some adjustability.

I'm looking at www.etrailer.com so if you could post up some links that would be cool.
I've been looking around for you and found an old one my dad used. OLD, like 1988. It's a manual Tekonsha no model number on it. You are welcome to it but I would recommend a new proportional type controller from etrailer.
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2015, 11:45:58 AM »

I agree with the proportional aspect as well, you don't want the same amount of braking applied every time you hit the brake.

It looks like all of the ones on etrailer say you'll also need the $65 install kit, probably no getting around that.
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2015, 03:18:08 PM »

I was looking at the tecomsha p3 but it's pricy.
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Re: 1991 Chevy c1500 electrical troubleshooting
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2015, 03:24:47 PM »

I was looking at the tecomsha p3 but it's pricy.
I still think you should flat tow using a Brake Buddy or Even Brake to reduce the strain on your truck. But putting the miles on those expensive Jeep tires hurts.
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