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Author Topic: Fuel Cell VS. Smog  (Read 2984 times)

timatoe

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Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« on: May 27, 2015, 09:25:44 PM »

OK so anyone running a cell, Chris or anyone else.  Have you had any issues with smog? 

Are you running a fuel cap at the cell or run a filler to the outside?

That's all for now. 

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connor0770

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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2015, 09:40:34 PM »

Chris runs a stock tank.  I've done hours and hours of research on this.  If they visually see you have a cell you will fail.  What most people do is save their stock tank for smog. Then when the time comes you swap tanks.
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2015, 09:50:44 PM »

I thought Chris built a cell?
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2015, 10:26:23 PM »

I kept my stock tank for smog. 

FWIW the smog tech didnt even want to pass me with my stock tank in the not stock location.  I had to tell him it was just there because i was working on my bumper and didnt put it back in stock location.
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2015, 07:02:26 AM »

Hmm  CA is freaking stupid.  What the hell difference does it make where the fuel comes from?  Stupid.
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Mr.B

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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2015, 07:59:56 AM »

Didn't someone here cut a hole in the back, raise the tank up about half way? So it was essentially in the stock position, but lifted?
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2015, 09:47:40 AM »

I think that was Chris, way back when.
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2015, 03:38:42 PM »

Matt's is that way too.
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2015, 09:20:10 PM »

Yeah mine used to be like a half and half.  So it wouldnt be noticable during smog. 

Worked good untill I linked the rear and the upper links were in way
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2015, 07:23:55 AM »

Technically the Genright tanks are fuel cells. But they are in the stock location and it just looks like a gas tank skid.   
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2015, 07:39:09 AM »

And they're $900
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2015, 08:01:27 AM »

And they're $900

$650 on CL.....right now.
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2015, 09:29:32 AM »

And they say not for highway use or whatever on em.

I was talking g to a guy with a tj at fordyce and said he was having a hell of a time finding a shop to pass his with the genright tank
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2015, 10:03:15 AM »

Just got my jeep smoged a little bit ago this morning.  (passed)  was talking to him about "moving" the gas tank.  Moving the tank is fine.  It's when you change the fill pipe (shorter / longer) or change to a tank other than oem where the problems start.  I'm curious if anyone has gone to the BAR testing after failing?  Like you have to do on engine change.
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2015, 12:37:36 PM »

Well I changed the filler and neck without issue, when I went to a 20 gallon tank from the steel 15 gallon.  I use a TJ filler with no issue.  I was kinda wondering how that would work if I could keep the filler on the outside and just have it run into the cab to a cell.
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2015, 12:42:58 PM »


And they're $900

Gotta find deals.. Fuel cells come close to the same price after all the fittings and misc. crap.
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2015, 12:29:14 PM »

Do fuel cells need CARB stickers?
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2015, 02:06:04 PM »


Do fuel cells need CARB stickers?

You can't get a CARB sticker for them. They will never be cleared as legal in CA. It has to be a stock gas tank
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timatoe

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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2015, 02:27:33 PM »


Do fuel cells need CARB stickers?

You can't get a CARB sticker for them. They will never be cleared as legal in CA. It has to be a stock gas tank

Actually I found a place through another site for a company out of Wyoming or somewhere with CARB approved cells, problem is they sold off their tank portion of the business and the new company wants like $900 for a "stock replacement" but will build a custom one.  For that price I'd get a GenRight.
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Re: Fuel Cell VS. Smog
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2015, 05:41:24 AM »

I wonder if they would have a problem if the vehicle wasn't equipped with an evap system? I would like to get rid of my saddle tanks, and go with a Blazer/Suburban tank. Pick and pull is a no go for it since they poke holes in them to drain them.
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