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Author Topic: 231/300 Doubler Problem  (Read 3319 times)

connor0770

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231/300 Doubler Problem
« on: March 12, 2017, 05:58:58 PM »

So I need to change the input shaft on my doubler.. well I can't get the planetaries out to replace the input.  Who's good at tig welding an wants to help a brotha out.  I need to cut out the channel. Replace planetaries, then reqeld the channel into place. Your Time and materials will be compensated.
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2017, 07:28:37 PM »

For my own curiosity, can you take a zoomed out pic? I've never seen how those doublers work


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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2017, 07:34:37 PM »



You can see the channel in this picture. You need it to run twin sticks on the Dana 300
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2017, 07:36:29 PM »

wondered why it had that channel in it.  There is plenty of room on the shift rails with a dana 300.  but i forgot how close the 205 rail is to the input
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2017, 08:52:38 PM »



You can see the channel in this picture. You need it to run twin sticks on the Dana 300
Interesting. Thanks for the pic. That seems like quite a compromise.


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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2017, 05:00:09 PM »

If you can cut the pocket out cleanly, I will make some time to weld the piece back in.  Let me know.  Mark
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2017, 05:12:52 PM »

How would one cut that out cleanly? Plasma arc gouging? Maybe a very small cutting wheel on a dremel? Cram some paper or a piece of sheet metal in front of the gears to keep them clean


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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2017, 07:36:21 PM »

Too technical, I would Sawzall along the weld ,  and probably  cutoff wheel in short side.  That way it goes right back in.  Mark
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2017, 04:12:19 PM »

Did you find anyone to do the work for you?


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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2017, 08:25:12 AM »

Did you find anyone to do the work for you?


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I think I have a solution. Going to send the shifters through the rear of the 205. THen ill cut the channel out and weld in a flat plate. My friend did it to his 231/205 doubler. He is going to give me a hand. Also, need to figure out how im going to get the speedo to work.
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2017, 09:40:43 AM »

Also, need to figure out how im going to get the speedo to work.

http://www.speedhut.com/gauge/GR338-GPS-01/1/GPS-Speedometer-120mph

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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2017, 11:14:49 AM »

Doesn't your PCM need the signal from a speed sensor?
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2017, 01:06:17 PM »

Doesn't your PCM need the signal from a speed sensor?

Nope.  Transmission doesn't have speed sensors. Its all hydraulic.
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2017, 09:01:37 PM »

Nope.  Transmission doesn't have speed sensors. Its all hydraulic.
Well that simplifies things. Guessing your engine doesn't use VSS either. P0500 comes to mind. Hope to see your rig on the trail this year.  :thumbsup:
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2017, 09:54:54 PM »

Well that simplifies things. Guessing your engine doesn't use VSS either. P0500 comes to mind. Hope to see your rig on the trail this year.  :thumbsup:

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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2017, 03:04:39 AM »

Why would it not be legal?  It tells you how fast you're going.
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2017, 07:15:08 AM »

Ohh! Throwing Shade.
Just a consideration, not "throwing shade" on his party.
I've run my 4.3 with and without a vss. Runs better with one. No codes without vss if P/N signal is fixed to park. RPM may be limited.
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2017, 07:21:06 AM »

Why would it not be legal?  It tells you how fast you're going.

I was thinking in the world of Smog.
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2017, 07:23:06 AM »

Well that simplifies things. Guessing your engine doesn't use VSS either. P0500 comes to mind. Hope to see your rig on the trail this year.  :thumbsup:

I dont think it will be on the trail this year. I doubt I will have the money to finish it.
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