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Author Topic: 231/300 Doubler Problem  (Read 3320 times)

Goobersbro

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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2017, 12:00:43 PM »

That's depressing lol
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timatoe

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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2017, 12:20:48 PM »

I was thinking in the world of Smog.

Like on the Dyno type smog?  Isn't that base on RPM?  I don't see how they couldn't smog it etc with a different speedometer.  We don't have the dyno smog up here but I smogged it twice with no working speedometer at all.
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2017, 03:38:26 PM »

It is sad, what is this smog thing you speak of?
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2017, 04:58:45 PM »

You're OBD-II. All they do is plug it in and see if it has thrown a code. Even OBD-I wouldn't have a problem unless it throws a code.
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2017, 07:17:01 AM »

Like on the Dyno type smog?  Isn't that base on RPM?  I don't see how they couldn't smog it etc with a different speedometer.  We don't have the dyno smog up here but I smogged it twice with no working speedometer at all.

Dyno smog.. Alright not going to worry about it then.
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2017, 07:45:05 AM »

I don't mean to keep "throwing shade", but if you have a code won't it fail smog? Maybe Patrick could shed some light on that p0500 speedo drive fussiness. Pretty sure the EFI and emissions use the vss signal (GM does, not sure about Jeep).
I'll step back now and mmob  :shaking:
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connor0770

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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2017, 07:51:38 AM »

I don't mean to keep "throwing shade", but if you have a code won't it fail smog? Maybe Patrick could shed some light on that p0500 speedo drive fussiness. Pretty sure the EFI and emissions use the vss signal (GM does, not sure about Jeep).
I'll step back now and mmob  :shaking:

If I do get a code with the speedo missing, ill run an adapter that converts the speedo input from cable actuated to an electronic signal.
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2017, 12:46:09 PM »

You should be able to feed the computer the signal regardless of speedo as long as you get an output from the t-case.
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2017, 12:58:39 PM »

You should be able to feed the computer the signal regardless of speedo as long as you get an output from the t-case.

Nope. I need 8,000 ppm (Pulse per mile) for the 32rh. The current 205 has a cable driven speed sensor. I need to adapt from mechanical to electrical.
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2017, 02:43:07 PM »

Without a speedo signal, the jeep would die at intersections when I stopped.


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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2017, 03:16:09 PM »

You might look here.http://www.jagsthatrun.com/
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timatoe

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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2017, 03:22:03 PM »

Nope. I need 8,000 ppm (Pulse per mile) for the 32rh. The current 205 has a cable driven speed sensor. I need to adapt from mechanical to electrical.

Yeah, look at the link Mark posted.  That's where I got the replacement for mine when it broke. 
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2017, 09:22:55 AM »

You might look here.http://www.jagsthatrun.com/

couldn't find anything on 8,000 PPM?
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2017, 11:46:09 AM »

Well, it was worth a shot.   Mark
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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2017, 02:12:03 PM »

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Re: 231/300 Doubler Problem
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2017, 03:13:54 PM »

Seems like you could also get the VSS from a '91 YJ since it fed a mechanical speedo and the 4.0.

'92+ was an electronic speedo and the 4.0.  But for the price and availability Novak is probably the way to go.
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